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In the second issue of Location [Donald Barthelme} took part in a debate about the future of fiction in which Saul Bellow argued that the modern novel was “predominantly realistic” because “realism is based upon our common life.” Barthelme countered that a “mysterious shift … takes place as soon as one says that art is not about something but is something,” when the literary text “becomes an object in the world rather than a commentary upon the world.